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		<title>By: Prison Food: The Grass-fed Model &#124; Hartke Is Online!</title>
		<link>http://hartkeisonline.com/food-politics/a-consumer-speaks-at-nais-listening-session/#comment-6181</link>
		<dc:creator>Prison Food: The Grass-fed Model &#124; Hartke Is Online!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 20:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Animal Idenification System) that took place in Harrisburg, PA earlier this year. Here is the complete text of her remarks in a previous post on [...]</description>
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		<title>By: wow gold</title>
		<link>http://hartkeisonline.com/food-politics/a-consumer-speaks-at-nais-listening-session/#comment-793</link>
		<dc:creator>wow gold</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jul 2009 05:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post! I plan to move into this stuff after I’m done with school, as most of it is time consuming. It’s a great post to reference back to. My blog needs more time to gain in popularity anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post! I plan to move into this stuff after I’m done with school, as most of it is time consuming. It’s a great post to reference back to. My blog needs more time to gain in popularity anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: esbee</title>
		<link>http://hartkeisonline.com/food-politics/a-consumer-speaks-at-nais-listening-session/#comment-598</link>
		<dc:creator>esbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 02:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry, that previous post was meant to read &quot;STALIN-MADE&quot;
Had a pleasant chat with a very nice lady at FoodLogiQ a company that tracks veggies from farm to store AND cattle in Wisconsin and Canada…I asked did they have plans to include home gardens as they could be a source of pathogenic contamination —she said no that would be too intrusive, too much trouble on their part and logistically impossible and there would be a huge outrage from the people. In other words it just could not be done!
I asked but what if salmonella or other pathogen from a private garden somehow got on the produce that would eventually go to the factories for canning, freezing or just to any grocery store…her reply was the factories are rigidly controlled to prevent that kind of stuff and the TRACEBACK WOULD BE JUST TO THE INFECTED PRODUCE THAT CAME FROM THE FIELDS (regardless of how they were infected) NOT THE PRIVATE GARDEN  FROM WHICH THE ACTUAL INFECTION MAY HAVE COME FROM!!!
And from this past few months we have experienced how stringent these factories truly are when it comes to tainted food (i.e. peanuts)
so I asked her if the govt knowing about every privately home grown tomato or cucumber was too intrusive AND UNWORKABLE then why does the same argument not hold for privately owned cattle, goats, pigs, ponies, chickens, etc when it comes to NAIS.
She agreed with me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry, that previous post was meant to read &#8220;STALIN-MADE&#8221;<br />
Had a pleasant chat with a very nice lady at FoodLogiQ a company that tracks veggies from farm to store AND cattle in Wisconsin and Canada…I asked did they have plans to include home gardens as they could be a source of pathogenic contamination —she said no that would be too intrusive, too much trouble on their part and logistically impossible and there would be a huge outrage from the people. In other words it just could not be done!<br />
I asked but what if salmonella or other pathogen from a private garden somehow got on the produce that would eventually go to the factories for canning, freezing or just to any grocery store…her reply was the factories are rigidly controlled to prevent that kind of stuff and the TRACEBACK WOULD BE JUST TO THE INFECTED PRODUCE THAT CAME FROM THE FIELDS (regardless of how they were infected) NOT THE PRIVATE GARDEN  FROM WHICH THE ACTUAL INFECTION MAY HAVE COME FROM!!!<br />
And from this past few months we have experienced how stringent these factories truly are when it comes to tainted food (i.e. peanuts)<br />
so I asked her if the govt knowing about every privately home grown tomato or cucumber was too intrusive AND UNWORKABLE then why does the same argument not hold for privately owned cattle, goats, pigs, ponies, chickens, etc when it comes to NAIS.<br />
She agreed with me.</p>
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		<title>By: esbee</title>
		<link>http://hartkeisonline.com/food-politics/a-consumer-speaks-at-nais-listening-session/#comment-595</link>
		<dc:creator>esbee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 02:02:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Past history is doomed to be repeated unless we learn from it. 
 
Appparently the USDA has no regard for history  such as the Stalin-made Ukranian famine, as they continue to force NAIS on American livestock owners. 

In the 1930&#039;s, under Stalin, millions of farm owners/worker/families were forcibly starved to death, shot by soldiers, sent to concentration camps  because they did not want to give up ownership of their lands.  They could not even eat what they grew, because it ALL went to the global market. The modernization and globalization of Russian farms took a heavy, tragic toll.  Those collective farms lie in ruins today as the idea just did not work!!!  Nor will NAIS!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Past history is doomed to be repeated unless we learn from it. </p>
<p>Appparently the USDA has no regard for history  such as the Stalin-made Ukranian famine, as they continue to force NAIS on American livestock owners. </p>
<p>In the 1930&#8242;s, under Stalin, millions of farm owners/worker/families were forcibly starved to death, shot by soldiers, sent to concentration camps  because they did not want to give up ownership of their lands.  They could not even eat what they grew, because it ALL went to the global market. The modernization and globalization of Russian farms took a heavy, tragic toll.  Those collective farms lie in ruins today as the idea just did not work!!!  Nor will NAIS!</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Murphy</title>
		<link>http://hartkeisonline.com/food-politics/a-consumer-speaks-at-nais-listening-session/#comment-552</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Murphy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 May 2009 11:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susan,

My grandfather listened to the &#039;experts&#039; who told him to sell his grass fed cattle to the feedlots for a fraction of what they were worth so they could fatten them on grain and make them unhealthy for people to eat. They convinced him that grass and hay was ok for cows used for breeding stock, but cattle raised for food must be fed corn. After giving up his healthy, nutrient dense beef without knowing it, he would take the little money they told him his cattle were worth and buy &#039;food&#039; at the grocery store that did not nourish his body. Like many farmers, he did not feed his family with what he produced. He died of cancer. 

I can&#039;t tell you how proud of you I am. 

http://petition2congress.com/2/1903/veterans-against-nais/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susan,</p>
<p>My grandfather listened to the &#8216;experts&#8217; who told him to sell his grass fed cattle to the feedlots for a fraction of what they were worth so they could fatten them on grain and make them unhealthy for people to eat. They convinced him that grass and hay was ok for cows used for breeding stock, but cattle raised for food must be fed corn. After giving up his healthy, nutrient dense beef without knowing it, he would take the little money they told him his cattle were worth and buy &#8216;food&#8217; at the grocery store that did not nourish his body. Like many farmers, he did not feed his family with what he produced. He died of cancer. </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t tell you how proud of you I am. </p>
<p><a href="http://petition2congress.com/2/1903/veterans-against-nais/" rel="nofollow">http://petition2congress.com/2/1903/veterans-against-nais/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sheri</title>
		<link>http://hartkeisonline.com/food-politics/a-consumer-speaks-at-nais-listening-session/#comment-542</link>
		<dc:creator>Sheri</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 03:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for sharing this Kimberly and Yay Susan!
:-)
Sheri
www.momsforsafefood.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for sharing this Kimberly and Yay Susan!<br />
 <img src='http://hartkeisonline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Sheri<br />
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		<title>By: Leah</title>
		<link>http://hartkeisonline.com/food-politics/a-consumer-speaks-at-nais-listening-session/#comment-538</link>
		<dc:creator>Leah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 00:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow!  I&#039;m so proud to be part of the WAPF group.  Someday this will all be obvious to the whole world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow!  I&#8217;m so proud to be part of the WAPF group.  Someday this will all be obvious to the whole world.</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy</title>
		<link>http://hartkeisonline.com/food-politics/a-consumer-speaks-at-nais-listening-session/#comment-537</link>
		<dc:creator>Betsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 23:31:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bravo!!</description>
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		<title>By: Twitted by ZenOfHealth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Twitted by ZenOfHealth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 20:14:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: TheYakRanch</title>
		<link>http://hartkeisonline.com/food-politics/a-consumer-speaks-at-nais-listening-session/#comment-527</link>
		<dc:creator>TheYakRanch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 May 2009 19:17:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As with most things, goverment rarely solves the problem but usually creates more government jobs.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;TheYakRanch’s last blog post..Yak It Up On Our New Blog&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As with most things, goverment rarely solves the problem but usually creates more government jobs.</p>
<p><abbr><em>TheYakRanch’s last blog post..Yak It Up On Our New Blog</em></abbr></p>
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